We had recently put out "This Day Forth"and around this time we became friends with Simon Hoggett. We met Simon at a Grave Forsaken show and soon he started coming to all our shows. We trusted him so much that we even got him to play drums for us for a couple of shows that Dave couldn't play. It wasn't long before he became a part of the team. We decided we wanted him in permanently, so we offered him the role of playing guitar. I would concentrate solely on vocals and he would play my parts. He accepted the offer and we were back to being a 5 piece. It was an exciting move for the band.