As 1997 approached we were working with Daniel quite a bit. One of the first songs we recorded was "Horror And Sadness". We knew a full album would take a while but an EP was a possibility. We decided to put "Horror And Sadness" together with some other recordings and put it out earlier. It was still a lot of work but it gave us a focus. Elias' friend Ari did a cover for us and I worked on a layout. But before that came out we had some other developments.