Sometime during 2004, Elias starting boarding at Chris' house. Because we had rehearsal there, it meant Elias was always around when we turned up. We were all forming a really good relationship with Elias and it was cool to hang out regularly. One night we rocked up and Chris asked us how we would feel about Elias jamming with us. It was a very logical step and we all agreed wholeheartedly. It was great that Chris suggested it because we knew he preferred to be the only guitarist. He was a big fan of one guitar bands like Motley Crue and Black Sabbath and liked being a four piece in that format. When the suggestion for Elias to jam came from Chris we knew we weren't treading on his toes. We were all very pleased with the development.